i was born and raised in chicago and i practiced law for 50 years. mayor daly, the real richard daly, he ran the city with an iron fist. but everything he did was open and [speaker not understood]. he was well known because that was when he was asked, why only a citizen [speaker not understood], one of his sons, he said, if you can't give it to your kids, who can you give it to? well, that's something he did in chicago, but everybody [speaker not understood]. here it's different and i think the mayor could learn a lot. mayor daly, i'm talking about. everything is handled differently. but the end result is the same because the two institutions that were designed for protection of open government have been [speaker not understood]. am i finished? >> you can finish your sentence, please. >>> you know who they are, the task force who will have new members who never attended the meetings, mr. capell the only exception, and we know about the ethics commission which has done nothing, nothing in all the years it's had referrals from the task force. thank you